The Tower of Joy: What did Ned already know?

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  • Published on:  Monday, April 1, 2019
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  • Tom McBriarty  2 months ago

    When a character is so great that they were only in nine episodes, eight years ago, and we're still talking about them.

  • Tom Pescatore  12 days ago

    @Ellie Bron he just renamed himself Mance Rayder

  • Laughing Man  23 days ago

    Boromir lived again only to die once more.

  • Deven Thakor  19 days ago

    "You cant just magic a fleet out of nowhere" *Show Ironborn laugh in D&D*

  • Caleb Olds  13 days ago

    To be fair, Ironborn are basically bred-shipbuilders

  • andreas simmons  2 months ago

    Your attention to detail, and using common sense analysis is what makes you such a great GOT contributor. Every video you have made is awesome. My personal GOT TV channel. Thanks Robert.

  • HuntingViolets  6 days ago


  • AK V  a months ago

    @Jeff Pullen nobody mentioned not liking this channel. Please reread what the comment said..

  • Godzilla00X  2 months ago

    "Ned, I married Rhegar out of love, he was a chill dude tbh. Sorry dad and Bran died but you know, Love is love lol! BTW can you raise my kid for me? Feel free to turn his birth into a conspiracy that becomes the gossip of the entire North. Just tell Cat it's a prank. Peace bro"

  • Dean Kruse  1 months ago

    @Ive Love is banal

  • Genarii  1 months ago

    @Faith Elizabeth Ann I dunno, maybe it's because my sister is my only sibling but I can imagine myself doing the same in Ned's shoes.

  • Paul Cipollini  6 hours ago

    Just found your channel. I love it. But we need a follow up to this video. The suspense!!!

  • Oh I always wondered why the rescuing of Lyanna wasn’t a bigger mission led by the pompous Robert, but of course Ned would’ve wanted it to be a secret. He totally knew about Lyanna willingly went with Rhaegar. My question is if Ned already thought about the possibility of faking Lyannas death how do we know he didn’t?

  • CJ Jankovics  14 days ago

    facetiousbadger I don't know if he was keen for them to marry. The marriages were his father and maester Lewin's choices to gain allies with greater houses. Bryndan to the Tully's oldest daughter, and his daughter to heir to the storm lands and cousin of the King. It's why Ned was fostered to Jon Arynn. His brother and father made red for objecting to Rhaegar 'stealing' his sister, I think, is what had him marching. That said, I think 'think' Ned might have been more lighthearted and fun loving before...

  • facetiousbadger  14 days ago

    @CJ Jankovics I don't know he was showing off a lot of his less pleasant qualities even as a boy. He bullied his brothers heavily, and admitted heavy drinking and whoring that Ned was also witness to. He had a lot of the qualities that Ned seemed to have always disliked in a person. I just don't get how they became good friends, or why he was so keen on Robert marrying Lyanna.

  • Bas Veerman  2 months ago

    Caring for the Targaryen children is a characteristic of Ned Stark, I think. Remember season 1/ book 1: Ned warns Cersei after discovering of her children's parentage, to spare the children from Robert's wrath. Ned had no family ties to those Lannister children, he simply considered them innocents.

  • HDreamer  1 months ago

    @Pita Ariel He was certainly disgusted about it, but he probably thought that having a falling about about this, would be bad for the realm and in turn for many more kids. He also blamed Cersei and Joffrey for that killing IIIRC, since the Hound was Joffreys personal guard, not Roberts. (and he wanted to think his friend had softened over the years I think)

  • SchoolVideosGoHere  1 months ago

    @Pita Ariel Is that true? He was disgusted with the Hound for riding down the Butcher's Boy

  • VeracityLH  2 months ago

    With all the allusions of ASOIAF and history (particularly English history, especially the Wars of the Roses), people are missing a big point about Stannis being given Dragonstone instead of Storm's End. In England, Ludlow Castle was a stronghold of Richard, Duke of York and some of his children spent a good bit of time there, including the future Richard III. When York's eldest son became Edward IV and married and had children, Edward sent HIS eldest son (the future Edward V) to Ludlow Castle to estab...

  • Old Daddie  1 months ago

    @oso fine Arthur was Henry VIII's elder brother who died (at age 15) before he could become king.

  • oso fine  1 months ago

    Thank you for this historical perspective! That’s a really interesting idea that the insult was only in Stannis’ mind. However, if that was true, Robert’s intentions were not very clear to anyone, not just Stannis. Renley was pretty easily convinced that he had a right to the throne, and was far better known at court. Can you expand on what happened after Henry made the decision to send Arthur to Ludlow? Did that work out (I’ve tried to untangle and remember what happened in the War of the Roses befo...

  • Marcus Aurelius  2 months ago

    I've always wondered why Ned only took 6 people to the TOJ. Thanks for this!

  • Isqandar Zulqarnain  2 months ago

    Marcus Aurelius 6 good men

  • Vander Plays  2 months ago

    I was scared that this was an April fools joke but I am so glad it wasn’t